So, how did you end up on Victory finally after all these years?
Well, the whole Victory thing came as a surprise for us. Given our history of past members, we didn't think that
Victory wanted anything to do with us. Plus Victory's experience with certain other bands from Clevo and their lack
of enthusiasm may have made them wary of signing another "lazy and dysfunctional" band from Clevo, but over the
past 2 years since we got back together, I think they saw that we are pretty committed to this. Plus I think that the
new material is too hard to deny.
What are your expectations for the album?
Well, as far as expectations, of course we'd like it to do excellent, but the most important thing to me, is the fact that
everyone in the band is happy with it. It's like this, we haven't put an album out in almost 9 years, so, needless to
say, this record is a make or break situation for us. If the album flops and evrybody hates it and it took us 9 years to
put out a shitty album... it would very bad for us. But we really put our heart and soul into this new one. We took our
time, had a decent budget to do what we wanted to with this CD. Plus, for me especially, I've been waiting about 9
years to do another record, and the opportunity came at a time when I had alot going on in my life, so I had plenty of
inspiration. So it was great therapy for me. But besides all the personal stuff, I think that we sound better than we
ever have. We're older, more experienced (in the studio and in life), we've "matured" as songwriters and musicians
without losing sight of what we are and where we came from. In other words "no sellout". To put it in more simple
terms, I think the record is amazing and the only thing stopping it from blowing up is distribution. That's were
Victory comes in. All it will take is for people to hear it and it will spread like wildfire.
How do you think it compares to your older material?
I love the old material. Although, at times after playing the same songs for so long, you get tired of them and want to
do new songs. The best thing about the old stuff is that it is still as fresh as the day we wrote it. It's timeless. When
we play shows, not a lot of people realize that alot of the songs were written almost 10 years ago! And they still
blow away tons of stuff that bands are doin' today. Sometimes I feel old cause when we do the older stuff I always
ask the crowd "what were you doing 10 years ago?... cause we were doin' this." It's funny. I think the new stuff is
phenomenal. We've changed slightly in 10 years, but in a good way. Still heavy as fuck, still raw, and still sick.
How does one get the name "Human Furnace?"
Oh that... I've been asked that many times over the years, and I never really give anybody a straight answer. It's not a
"stage name" or anything. It's not meant to be "scary" either. Although I wont tell you how I got it, I'll tell a little
something. Even before we started the band, it was and still is a "pen name", like "Pushead" or something. Of
course, I'm not sure about Pushead, but mine has alot of meaning behind it. So when we started with the band, when
I wrote lyrics it seemed only natural to use the alias for that as well. Plus it's my way of separating split
Whats up with your tattoo shops? (feel free to plug and give the addresses and everything).
I've been tattooing for about 9 years. It's what I do. It's my life. I opened up my first shop in '97. We expanded that
shop in '99 when I took on a partner. I'm not just sayin it cuz I own the place, but we have the most amazing crew
there. Everyday it blows my mind when I come into work and see what one of them is working on. It's great. We
dominate the Cleveland tattoo scene, the world is next, period. Anyway, enough of that. We opened our second shop
in August of this year. I'm really proud if it. The shop is simply beautiful, and we are fortunate to have ample talent
to man 2 shops. Ok, now is when I plug the shops- SHOP#1 (original location) 252 TATTOO, COLUMBIA
STATION OH, 44028 USA 1.440.235.6699 and SHOP#2 252 TATTOO-second level, 51B SOUTH MAIN ST.,
OBERLIN OH 1.440.776.0095 If ya don't believe me, check out the website which will be up within the next month
at www.252tattoo.com. If it ain't up when ya check, keep checkin back, it'll blow your mind.
"Birth Is Pain" is pretty negative in itself, and the lyrics to some of the songs follow this theme. Exactly
what kind of twisted upbringing and negative outlook contribute to this?
Well, as I said earlier, this record was definitely therapy for me. My upbringing was good, not rich, but not poor
either. Everybody in my family has worked hard and earned everything they have. So, it's not like I grew up in a
ghetto, but I cant help to notice how shitty things really are. The world is a fucked up place. It's dirty and cheap.
Filled with scum. It's undeniable. Watch TV or just go outside and look whats goin' on around you. Not all, but as a
whole the human race is garbage. So, I use these things as a backdrop to the lyrics I write. Everything I sing about, I
mean. It's not fake, its heartfelt and honest. I dont live a fairy-tale life, but I realize I'm fortunate for the things that I
have. But face it, everybody has personal problems and that's what I write about. I write how I feel, because these
are the things I know. Overall, it gives our music a dark overtone, but thats what it's about, dark overtones,
depression, confusion, anger, strength to overcome. We, or me, I should say, often get accussed of being Satanic or
whatever. It could be our image or our reputation, I'm not sure, and although it's not totally true, it doesn't really
bother me. I don't really write lyrics for the masses, I write them for myself, but I hope that everybody finds
something in them. Their own meaning. Occasionally I'm pretty blunt with my words, so a meaning isn't hard to
find, but, even though I'm just screaming my head off, I like to think that theres a certain poetry to them that make
the listener find their own meaning. I like the fact that, when I meet people, or when we play, everybody has a
different favorite song. I think it's because the songs mean certain things to certain people.
What are you gonna be for Halloween?
A demon. In other words, myself.
Yeah,me,I'm going as Osama bin Laden. Horrible taste,I know....
Watch it, you might get your ass kicked by somebody. Or, if your costume is too good, you might get shot.
What are your tour plans now that your album is ready to come out?
Tours. We have stuff in the works right now, but until things are confirmed I don't want to talk about them. We are,
though, going to be touring extensively for the album. We are a live band, that's when we are at our best. As far as
Europe goes, uncertain. Face it, things have been crazy, so even though we definitely are planning a European tour,
it won't be until things have chilled out a little more. We plan to destroy the USA first before embarking on a
Any final comments / plugs / shoutouts / shittalking... ?
Thanks for the interview, hope all you sickos enjoy the CD, and come to see us live when it's possible. Get tattooed
at 252. Nuff said. Adios.
Written By: Chris X